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Post  Guest Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:18 pm

That works.

Concept: http://a.imageshack.us/img132/900/azdunfighter.png

THIS IS NOT DONE!

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Post  Chazicaria Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:18 pm

Itailian Maifias wrote:
Admin wrote:To do that I would have to increase the Engine Thrust quite a bit, in turn we would lose range and the Fighter would become unable to be operated via Carrier.

@Tarsas
Basically this isn't an Azdun Fighter if we use that, it is the 'Tarsas Fighter with Dinosian Specifications".

No you contribute one, maybe two parts to the Avionic's Suite.

Also I think that a good name for the group will be Azdun Air Defense Conglomerate (AADC)


I agree with Dino, everyone should contribute something so it really is an Azdun Fighter.
Also, I like the name Dino

Yes! I can just contribute money though...

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Post  Admin Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:20 pm

@Chaz
As you wish

@Tarsas
It is a good start, although i recommend Delta instead of Trapezoidal wings.

@IM
Thanks.
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Post  Guest Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:20 pm

Delta doesn't work well on multi role. They don't have as high a weight capacity.

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Post  Admin Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:22 pm

Trapezoidal limits the Maneuverability however. Plus this Fighter has no wing mounted Pylons so that shouldn't be an issue.
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Post  Itailian Maifias Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:23 pm

I would go with what type of wings the F-22 uses. Since we are going for a stealth fighter, I am assuming those wings would work the best
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Post  Guest Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:23 pm

Multi roles need wing mounted pylons. That defeats the entire purpose of versatility.

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Post  Admin Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:26 pm

Fuselage mounted Pylons and several Internal Pylons make up for this.

Plus you can't mount Wing Pylons on a Trapezoidal wing.

Look at the F-22, without Delta wings you don't get Wing Mounted Pylons.

And I can adjust my Statblock to gives us those, but it will affect our stealth capabilities.
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Post  Guest Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:27 pm

I don'[t want delta. What about backward facing fixed wings?

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Post  Admin Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:28 pm

Increased speed, but loss of Maneuverability and limited number of Wing Pylons.

Delta is our best bet. Nothing else can meet our requirements.
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Post  Guest Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:40 pm

No. Delta wings simply don't do. Rear facing swept wings is what we need.

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Post  Admin Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:49 pm

No because for a Multi-Role we need a balance of speed and maneuverability. Backwards-Swept Wings will give us more speed, but cause us to lose our versatility and maneuverability. Variable Swept wings would work but they would need to be well reinforced, and we would still be limited on our number of wing-mounted pylons.
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Post  Guest Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:52 pm

Release more powerful engines to compensate. Dino, stealth destroys turning anyway.

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Post  Admin Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:59 pm

All that will do is increase Thrust and as such Speed. Fiber-mat is something cheap that is built into the Aircraft's Frame and so doesn't affect it's Maneuverability.

Delta Wings are our best bet, the next best is Variable Sweep wings.
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Post  Guest Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:10 pm

I won't use delta. Horribly unstable.

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Post  Admin Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:12 pm

We are talking cropped delta similar to the F-16, F-5, F-18, and such. Not a full Delta wing.
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Post  Itailian Maifias Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:21 pm

If I may but into this very entertaining debate, Tarsas why don't you just do delta for the version we release and then when it is released go and make your own variant
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Post  Admin Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:24 pm

Itailian Maifias wrote:If I may but into this very entertaining debate, Tarsas why don't you just do delta for the version we release and then when it is released go and make your own variant

OR we can produce an Interceptor Variant that uses Swept Wings.
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Post  Itailian Maifias Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:26 pm

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Itailian Maifias wrote:If I may but into this very entertaining debate, Tarsas why don't you just do delta for the version we release and then when it is released go and make your own variant

OR we can produce an Interceptor Variant that uses Swept Wings.


That too.

Remind me, what are Delta wings? The ones the Raptor use or something else?
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Post  Guest Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:31 pm

To late Dino. I have the Na-7 interceptor...I'll sell it in limited numbers.

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Post  Itailian Maifias Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:36 pm

Tarsas wrote:To late Dino. I have the Na-7 interceptor...I'll sell it in limited numbers.

If you already have the Na-7, why were you wanting an receptor fighter in this?
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Post  Admin Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:37 pm

@Tarsas
Trust me cropped Delta wings are the best for this Aircraft.
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Post  Itailian Maifias Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:39 pm

Admin wrote:@Tarsas
Trust me cropped Delta wings are the best for this Aircraft.

Cropped? Give me an example of cropped Delta wings
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Post  Admin Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:43 pm

F-5E, F-16, F-18

All those Fighters use cropped delta wings.
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Post  Itailian Maifias Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:47 pm

Admin wrote:F-5E, F-16, F-18

All those Fighters use cropped delta wings.

Ah ok, I see what you are talking about now
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